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MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING - Does anyone still buy this GUFF?
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Do you believe that manmade Co2 is the MAIN cause of global warming?
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Don't know / Undecided
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Good stuff Bard, although I do not think demos are necessary !!

You must put, esp on this Island, your talents to good use. For every one moaner I am sure there are 1000 others that read with great interest and absorb your articles. They may not agree but it makes good, and interesting reading, something different.

I will be watching the locals.
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Chris_and_Leanne wrote:
What did the complaint say ?!


"If people object to mass fluoridation in water supplies on ethical grounds - that is one aspect which I can understand, but not support.

But for Steve Andrews to write and for you to publish the kind of spurious arguments, including cancer scares, an ingredient in cockroach poisons, etc. is degrading to the author and yourselves."

R.O.Leavor


I have absolute contempt for anyone who tries to belittle someone who has the courage to criticise a scientific theory or process that is imposed upon the population with dubious or unproven effects. Everyone is entitled to their own scientific opinion, particularly when the consequences are of little real significance to the general population.

This type of person will never give a true scientific rebuff and if they do, it will normally be by simply upholding the establishment 'conclusions' as somehow being beyond reproach. Usually they will throw in the odd personal insult too, which of course does nothing but illustrate their true mental age.

On the subject of fluoridation, If Mr Leavor or anyone else honestly believes that Fluoride will magically protect his and his family's dental health, then they should feel free to continue using the toothpastes and mouthwashes that they have presumably been using for the past 40 odd years. The content of Fluoride therein is far higher than in any tap water.

And lets face it, if people don't brush their teeth, what possible help is Fluoride in the water going to be?

As for me, I shall continue using my organic toothpaste and drinking bottled water. I haven't had any new decay in 4 years (coincidentally since I stopped using Fluoride toothpastes!)
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As for me, I shall continue using my organic toothpaste and drinking bottled water. I haven't had any new decay in 4 years (coincidentally since I stopped using Fluoride toothpastes!)


I can say the same thing - since I came here and got away from going to the dentist where they often finished the examination or treatment with a polish using fluoride paste, I have had no toothache or problem with cavities. I have a loose tooth and two fillings came out but no pain and no problems like I used to have when I was seeing a dentist. Lately for several weeks I ran out of toothpaste too and being unable to find any up here that didn't have SLS, parabens, or other toxins (and that is the brands from the health shops!) I got by with none at all and am now seriously wondering if most of the problems I have ever had with my teeth were actually caused by the treatment and recommendations I was given. I have got some Dentie powder made of aubergine and sea salt and nothing more and that's the sort of paste I want. But I had to go all the way to Las Galletas to get it. Every brand in the supermarkets and farmacias are poisoned with fluoride and every brand in the health shops are not much better!
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Good stuff Bard, although I do not think demos are necessary !!

You must put, esp on this Island, your talents to good use. For every one moaner I am sure there are 1000 others that read with great interest and absorb your articles. They may not agree but it makes good, and interesting reading, something different.

I will be watching the locals.


Thanks, Karl! Smile
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Just read this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7287988.stm
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More from my friendly US doctor...

Well, you won't hear about this in any mainstream media, but there's new evidence that Al Gore's "rapidly disappearing" polar ice cap has made a remarkable comeback. According to statistics from the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, polar ice cap levels which had shriveled to just 4 million square kilometers by January of 2007 are now back up to their original level of 13 million square kilometers.

According to scientists, the northern hemisphere is in the midst of one of its coldest winters in decades, and snowfall has reached a record level not seen since 1966. Central and southern China recently experienced crippling snows that brought much of that vast country to a halt for several days. This winter there's even been snow in, of all places, the Middle East (not generally known for its skiing).

As a man of science, I think there's a suspicious stink to the global warming issue. To be sure, there are legitimate scientists and researchers who ascribe to the theory. And I'm sure that climatologists are both stunned and excited that their discipline has actually become sexy and high-profile over the last 10 years. But what no one bothers to point out is that there are just as many legitimate scientists and researchers who think global warming is a bunch of hooey.

I often rail about the undue influence that money, business, and politics have on our healthcare system. Other scientific disciplines are identical to medicine in this way – they don't operate in a vacuum.



Thirty years ago, climatologists and earth scientists bickered and disagreed over these issues (remember the famed "hole in the ozone" that was being created by aerosol spray cans?). The difference between now and then is that these internecine fights never made the news. Until this global warming hubbub, climatology wasn't considered a life-or- death issue the way medicine is. And just like doctors who are influenced by money from Big Pharma, so too are earth scientists and climatologists swayed by grant money and funded research. Oh yes – my "follow the money" dictum applies to these guys, too.

And since global warming has become a political minefield and seemingly as divisive an issue in our time as the abolition of slavery was in the 1850s and 1860s, there's big-time grant and research money being tossed about to help politicians (regardless of their stance on the issue) make their points. Which is why you need to take the entire global warming argument with a gigantic grain of salt.

To me, the concept of man-made climate change strains credulity. Firstly, let's take a look at the "facts" upon which this supposed warming trend is based. How long would you say that mankind has been able to accurately record temperatures? A hundred years? A hundred and fifty at the most? If you see a TV weatherman talking about a "record" high temperature, is that "hottest day" ever, say, in July of 1712? Nope. The records usually don't go back much farther than the 1890s. So how can we draw a conclusion about a global warming trend based on a little over a century of accurately kept records, keeping in mind that a century represents little more than a nanosecond of geologic time? We can't.

I know that there are other factors involved – polar core samples, soil records, etc. But earth scientists are always telling us how cyclical the world is – how the earth has experienced several ice ages where massive glaciers advanced and retreated over the course of several millennia? Knowing that, I find it just a little laughable to be getting worked up over doomsday scenarios that predict all of mankind to be living in a sweltering desert just 20 years from now unless we all stop putting our groceries in plastic bags.
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For some reason I missed the last few posts on this thread. So thanks to Bard, Margaret and Rob for the added input. Very Happy
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For some reason I missed the last few posts on this thread. So thanks to Bard, Margaret and Rob for the added input. Very Happy


You're welcome and have you seen the new crazy BBC story and video of a 45-mile break in an Antarctic ice-shelf being used to prove global warming? It has perfectly straight edges and a break at perfect right angles! People not fooled by the mainstream propaganda are saying laser weaponry or HAARP has been used to do this! I have never seen right angles in nature before!
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Bard I thought that, ....I never knew Mother Nature carried a straight edge. Shocked
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Bard I thought that, ....I never knew Mother Nature carried a straight edge. Shocked


Well, straight lines in stems and trees and wings and indeed, in broken ice, but all the broken ice I have ever seen on ponds, puddles, rivers, etc is jagged and looks as it its broken randomly and I have never seen clean cuts at right angles in anything natural! I see it all the time in man-made stuff like buildings, computers, windows, doors and so on. People make right angles but Mother Nature does not in my opinion!
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Well spotted Bard. I shall try to find this article. Don't suppose you have a link for a lazy surfer....? Smile
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Well spotted Bard. I shall try to find this article. Don't suppose you have a link for a lazy surfer....? Smile


I came across it first in the chemtrail tracking group I told you about. It started on the BBC but it's probably all over the Internet by now!
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The latest "save the planet" green exercise comes from the extremely wealthy ex-Beatle Paul McCartney, who has painted himself as "Mr. Environment" over the years. McCartney is the pitchman for the new, ultra-expensive Lexus LS600H – the luxury carmaker's top-of-the-line hybrid vehicle. The LS600H is a Super Ultra Low Emission vehicle. It also happens to boast a muscular 430-horsepower engine and gets a not-so-eco-friendly 21 MPG. But here's the funny part. Lexus was so pleased with McCartney's efforts in the promotion of the car that they gave him his own LS600H – and they shipped it to him by plane.

According to CO2balance.com, the plane journey of McCartney's massive luxury 4 x 4 caused a carbon footprint that was 100 times larger than what it would have been had the car been shipped via boat. This is the equivalent of driving the vehicle around the world SIX TIMES.
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