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andyfowles Pro Reefer



Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 665 Location: Woking, Home of McLaren F1 Racing. Driven by the winner of the F1 drivers championship 2008.
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Reply to techie:
Thank you for your response to my comment concerning errors in the coding on the http://www.taffys-travels.com website, which I posted onto your forum.
Let me start by saying that I liked the overall look of the site, found the content interesting and I appreciate that the website is only recently ‘released’.
I appreciate and understand your comments fully, concerning the reason validation of the webpage failed under the DOCTYPE XHTML 1.0 Strict and see that you have today changed this to XHTML 1.0 Transitional which is the correct DOCTYPE to use when you are integrating features not available under Strict.
Whether or not the Strict DOCTYPE should or should not contain elements such as the A tag TARGET parameter (target='_blank) was not in question, the fact is that it doesn’t and as such your page did not adhere to the standards laid out under the DOCTYPE which you had used.
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You will find that the W3C validator will find many highly advanced sites that do not meet the criteria set by strict DOCTYPES. | As such their web designers, like you; should have used transitional (since you have now changed it, I assume that you agree) The fact that other sites are also incorrectly ‘DOCTYPE’d’ is no defence, come on !!
Nice website though! _________________
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Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:51 pm
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Tenerife Seagull Pro Reefer



Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 541 Location: Puerto de la Cruz, Tenerife
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Tenerife most certainly does have talent - but there's a problem, it is paid appallingly.
Good luck Bard. My experience of similar provincial contests is that the result is rigged. I do hope that it is not the case with this one. _________________ Don't follow the 'MySpaceTenerife' link under my avatar because you will learn nothing about me.
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Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:57 pm
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bardofely Supreme Reefer



Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 3294 Location: Playa San Marcos, Tenerife
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| Tenerife Seagull wrote: | Tenerife most certainly does have talent - but there's a problem, it is paid appallingly.
Good luck Bard. My experience of similar provincial contests is that the result is rigged. I do hope that it is not the case with this one. |
My experience is the same! I have done several in Wales where without a doubt I got much more applause than the winners. In fact at one in Ebbw Vale people were shouting fix when the results were announced!
However, this does get me being hopefully able to get seen by some of the radio DJs here and my pic in The Paper again!
All countries have loads of talent and most of it isn't paid at all! The situation in the UK is terrible but as I found out not long after I got here for all those that think it's hard over there if they came here they would think Britain was a wonderful place for giving musicians and singers a chance! _________________ Find out more about me here: http://www.myspacetenerife.com/index.php?page=view_profile&id=10 |
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Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:53 pm
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margaretbl Supreme Reefer



Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3782 Location: south tyneside
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I hope it is not rigged, as that leaves a bad taste in your mouth, you see it a lot in local talent contests, but as you say Bard it will be good publicity for you and your never know who is watching / listening. GOOD LUCK  _________________ Failures don't plan to fail, they fail to plan
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Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:09 am
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bardofely Supreme Reefer



Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 3294 Location: Playa San Marcos, Tenerife
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| margaretbl wrote: | I hope it is not rigged, as that leaves a bad taste in your mouth, you see it a lot in local talent contests, but as you say Bard it will be good publicity for you and your never know who is watching / listening. GOOD LUCK  |
I am used to a rigged music business!
Thank you! _________________ Find out more about me here: http://www.myspacetenerife.com/index.php?page=view_profile&id=10 |
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Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:19 am
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Helena and Shiel Senior Reefer



Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 120 Location: scotland
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Bard good luck for Sunday, Shiel and I did a gig each in that very venue last week when we were over on our hols! It's a lovely venue and the sound system is excellent! We have been at Tenerifes got talent the last two Sundays with our friend Tony Capaldi, who owns Shenanigans in the patch, but we are home now, such a pity you were not on either of those weeks, we would have loved to have met and heard you! I,m sure we will meet you one day though! Anyway the very best of british to you!
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Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:12 pm
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bardofely Supreme Reefer



Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 3294 Location: Playa San Marcos, Tenerife
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| Helena and Shiel wrote: | Bard good luck for Sunday, Shiel and I did a gig each in that very venue last week when we were over on our hols! It's a lovely venue and the sound system is excellent! We have been at Tenerifes got talent the last two Sundays with our friend Tony Capaldi, who owns Shenanigans in the patch, but we are home now, such a pity you were not on either of those weeks, we would have loved to have met and heard you! I,m sure we will meet you one day though! Anyway the very best of british to you!
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Thank you, Helena, and yes, it's a shame I'm on the wrong weekend to have met you! _________________ Find out more about me here: http://www.myspacetenerife.com/index.php?page=view_profile&id=10 |
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Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:28 pm
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jenny Senior Moderator



Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 5290
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Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:52 am
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rob Moderator



Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 7713 Location: Tenerife
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| bardofely wrote: | It works for me and looks great!
And I noticed the name Shaun Donovan and am wondering could it be the one I know who used to live in Cardiff and was a guitarist and art student? |
Here's his bio.... http://www.taffys-travels.com/life-in-the-uk.php _________________ .
Who am I? Follow the myspacetenerife link under my avatar.
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Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:02 am
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bardofely Supreme Reefer



Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 3294 Location: Playa San Marcos, Tenerife
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| jenny wrote: | | So how did you get on? |
OK thanks, but in terms of getting through to the next stage I actually don't know because after my set I dashed off to get the 4pm bus so missed the final acts and seeing how how it went. They left voting slips on the tables and it depends on votes cast on those.
It helps at these type of events if you have some friends/fans present but I didn't know anyone all there.
I think a little girl who was on before me dancing would have beaten me and the other guy that had been on and I told her that. He had a mini disc and backing tracks as did she to dance over.
The compere had a guitar and he started with two songs with guitar but even that was over backing tracks so when he broke a string it didn't matter and he put the guitar down and carried on just singing.
I always feel the odd on out because I don't have backing tracks. I am even considering getting them but it's something I know nothing about at all.
I mean where do people get the tracks from? And come to think of it how much does a minidisc player cost?
They use backing tracks up here too for Spanish singers.
I had never encountered this until I came to Tenerife. I have been thinking maybe I am making things difficult for myself by playing live and if I did like all the rest would produce what audiences want better and wouldn't have to carry a guitar around. I have noted before that most successful acts on the Tenerife "cabaret circuit" use these minidiscs.
Does these mean that I will be abandoning original material and real playing to join the club here? We'll have to see!  _________________ Find out more about me here: http://www.myspacetenerife.com/index.php?page=view_profile&id=10 |
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Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:08 am
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bardofely Supreme Reefer



Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 3294 Location: Playa San Marcos, Tenerife
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| rob wrote: | | bardofely wrote: | It works for me and looks great!
And I noticed the name Shaun Donovan and am wondering could it be the one I know who used to live in Cardiff and was a guitarist and art student? |
Here's his bio.... http://www.taffys-travels.com/life-in-the-uk.php |
It's a different person I can see from reading that. The one I know is younger and went to Cardiff Art college - I remember seeing one of his exhibitions. And the one I knew used to play original songs and covers backed by guitar in venues I went to as well.
This means there are two Shaun Donovan's from Cardiff! _________________ Find out more about me here: http://www.myspacetenerife.com/index.php?page=view_profile&id=10 |
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Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:15 am
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Helena and Shiel Senior Reefer



Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 120 Location: scotland
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Hi Bard a mini disc player is around £150 - £200 new, in the uk, but you can get them, for about £60, on e bay, and there are always some on there, we have bought a couple of spares off there recently, if you decide to go down that route, dont buy the small walk man type they are useless for gigging, as they are too small and fiddley although, they are handy for recording set lists down from one disc to another. We found that all the venues we went to had mini disc players, so you probably wouldn't need one other than for making your sets up.
If you decide to go down that route, I can let you know where we get our backing tracks (online), and they are not that expensive anymore.
Another option for you would be perhaps to get a hold of some midii file backing tracks, and remove the guitar part, allowing you to play it.
I have a Roland sound canvas midi file player and hundreds of backing tracks on midi file that I dont use anymore, I used it 13 years ago before mini discs became popular!! ....I can bring it over with me when we move over and I would be happy to give it to you......it would really just allow you to edit the tracks (take the guitar out) then you would copy the track onto mini disc......this is what I did when i changed to mini disc, copied all the floppys onto mini disc, it sounds like a hassle but its not really and would maybe be worth it. Dont know if any of the tracks would be of use to you, I dont imagine we play the same sort of sets!!
Anyway, you can let me know!
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Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:23 pm
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bardofely Supreme Reefer



Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 3294 Location: Playa San Marcos, Tenerife
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| Helena and Shiel wrote: | Hi Bard a mini disc player is around £150 - £200 new, in the uk, but you can get them, for about £60, on e bay, and there are always some on there, we have bought a couple of spares off there recently, if you decide to go down that route, dont buy the small walk man type they are useless for gigging, as they are too small and fiddley although, they are handy for recording set lists down from one disc to another. We found that all the venues we went to had mini disc players, so you probably wouldn't need one other than for making your sets up.
If you decide to go down that route, I can let you know where we get our backing tracks (online), and they are not that expensive anymore.
Another option for you would be perhaps to get a hold of some midii file backing tracks, and remove the guitar part, allowing you to play it.
I have a Roland sound canvas midi file player and hundreds of backing tracks on midi file that I dont use anymore, I used it 13 years ago before mini discs became popular!! ....I can bring it over with me when we move over and I would be happy to give it to you......it would really just allow you to edit the tracks (take the guitar out) then you would copy the track onto mini disc......this is what I did when i changed to mini disc, copied all the floppys onto mini disc, it sounds like a hassle but its not really and would maybe be worth it. Dont know if any of the tracks would be of use to you, I dont imagine we play the same sort of sets!!
Anyway, you can let me know!
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Thanks for offering to help! If I try this I think I'd just do it like most of the others do - sing over backing tracks with full instrumentation on. All the venues I have been at have players and the acts just put their discs in them. I would need a player of my own so I could practice the songs.
I think the audiences expect to hear a reproduction of what is on the hit records and this is impossible for a guitar and vocals only no matter how good you are as a guitarist. I remember once playing a spot when the duo band M4 (2 guitars and vocals over backing tracks) had a regular gig, and what was interesting was that I got a better reaction for a song of my own than I did for a cover of Stand By Me even though I had José from M4 doing lead on it as well. I remember thinking then they don't like it not because it isn't played well but because it isn't like what is on the record. With the self-penned song they couldn't make any comparison because they didn't have any idea of how it was supposed to sound.
For now I would appreciate knowing where you get tracks online so I can have a look at what's available so please let me know about that. _________________ Find out more about me here: http://www.myspacetenerife.com/index.php?page=view_profile&id=10 |
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Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:58 pm
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Helena and Shiel Senior Reefer



Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 120 Location: scotland
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Hi again Bard, You could try SBI.com (sound back international) theirs are pretty good, I will find out from Shiel the other ones when he comes home.
I totally get where you are coming from with the live versus trax....when I started out, 18 years ago, I had dots for my set and only ever worked with the resident bands in the social clubs, some were awful but the buzz of not knowing what they were going to be like kept me on my toes, and made me perform better!
The sad thing is the club bands are a dying breed, so in order to work I have to work with backing tracks, I still do quite a bit of work with bands, on a sunday night, which is more due to a shortage of acts able to work with dots than an abundance of bands, so I find myself in the same venues with the same bands on a regualr basis, but its something I dont want to lose, so I am glad of the work, its a refreshing change from backing tracks all the time.
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bardofely Supreme Reefer



Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 3294 Location: Playa San Marcos, Tenerife
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