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MICHELLEH1704 Baby Reefer


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hi all moving to tenner in about 6 wks with my family my son has worked cafe bars,tgi,s,ect all over,my daughter is a great singer,im a good cook,my wife just spends money,do you think we could make it over there.and before you say anything,yes i have tried to loose the wife  |
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:15 pm
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andyfowles Pro Reefer



Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 658 Location: Woking, Home of McLaren F1 Racing. Driven by the winner of the F1 drivers championship 2008.
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Hi and welcome to the forum,
There are many threads on the forum about living and working in Tenerife.
| michelleh1704 wrote: | | .....do you think we could make it over there..... |
Doing what?
Have you got any ideas what you / your son / your daughter want to do? Do they want to do it as well, or is it just your dream?
There was a very interesting post recently by Karl Here about businesses in Tenerife which you may find interesting, you'll need to read the whole thread as the interesting post wasn't Karls first on the thread. _________________
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:09 pm
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MICHELLEH1704 Baby Reefer


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| we are looking at a bar to buy we dont want to get rich quick we want to work but a diff life style |
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:32 pm
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andyfowles Pro Reefer



Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 658 Location: Woking, Home of McLaren F1 Racing. Driven by the winner of the F1 drivers championship 2008.
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| MICHELLEH1704 wrote: | | we are looking at a bar to buy we dont want to get rich quick |
You certainly won't get rich quickly running a bar.
| MICHELLEH1704 wrote: | | ...we want to work but a diff life style |
Running a bar will ceratinly be a different lifestyle.....about 16 (or more) hours a day, 7 days a week
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:56 pm
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rob Moderator



Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 7708 Location: Tenerife
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There's only one way to make a small fortune out of running a bar....... that's to start with a big fortune!
Seriously, if you have sufficient funds to buy a decent sized bar and have the business acumen and experience then it can pay, otherwise it's a lot of hard work for very little return but some people are so keen on the life that money really isn't important, they're quite happy to scrape along and not be able to afford the 'normal' things in life.
Most (not quite all) bars are up for sale again after a few months when people realise that others have been telling them the truth that owning a bar is far worse than working in one. _________________ .
Who am I? Follow the myspacetenerife link under my avatar.
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:23 pm
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karlb Moderator



Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 3962 Location: Tenerife
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Hello MICHELLEH1704 and welcome.
I seriously hope you have a nice big lump sum to live on and survive for a while. _________________ Need a cleaner in South Tenerife ? Cleaning just got better... www.maid4tenerife.com
Who am I? Check out MySpaceTenerife.
The sky is not less blue because the blind man does not see it. |
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Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:58 pm
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MICHELLEH1704 Baby Reefer


Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Posts: 15
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hi all and thanx for the advice.we have been looking into buying a bar called little britian,its in los americas {do any of you know of the said bar}.my son has run bars before in spain,and gibralter,and ran a bar in the uk so he has a lot of ex runing bars up to a very high standard.i myself have worked in cafe bars in the uk cooking ect.my wife has worked in pubs ex serving behind the bar.my daughter has also worked with my son in bars.i know we have got the talent and the drive to make it ,the only thing that worries us is that, is thier enough custom out thier.we are all hard workers and dont mind the long hours.we have enough money to last us 1 year ,after paying rent,food bills,ect ect.do you think that would be enough time for us to make it,like i said before we are not in it to make a fast buck but to change our life style.any advice would bbe welcomed.thanx  |
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:10 am
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margaretbl Supreme Reefer



Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3782 Location: south tyneside
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Hello there, please take on board all that the residents are telling you, they have seen many come and go!!! _________________ Failures don't plan to fail, they fail to plan
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:14 am
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MICHELLEH1704 Baby Reefer


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| cheers for the advice not bought anywhere yet just testing the water |
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:53 am
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karlb Moderator



Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 3962 Location: Tenerife
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the only pointers I can give you are from my own personal experience.
There are customers here.
Food must be fresh, good quality and value for money. Staff must be polite and friendly and helpful at all times. Maybe a bit of quality entertainment every now and then.
It you can meet this criteria then you should do well. Unlike 90 per cent of other bars and cafes in the tourist areas that think some beer, instant coffee, karaoke, and a full greasy english is gonna pull the money spending crowds in.
Also, its a long story, if a mother and child come in and ask to use the loo, do not ask for a euro lol !!!!!! Not only is it the law to let them unless you have a dress code or door charge, its just courteous and they may come back or even stay for an icecream. That happened to my wife and son !!!!
 _________________ Need a cleaner in South Tenerife ? Cleaning just got better... www.maid4tenerife.com
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:32 am
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rob Moderator



Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 7708 Location: Tenerife
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| MICHELLEH1704 wrote: | hi all and thanx for the advice.we have been looking into buying a bar called little britian,its in los americas {do any of you know of the said bar}.my son has run bars before in spain,and gibralter,and ran a bar in the uk so he has a lot of ex runing bars up to a very high standard.i myself have worked in cafe bars in the uk cooking ect.my wife has worked in pubs ex serving behind the bar.my daughter has also worked with my son in bars.i know we have got the talent and the drive to make it ,the only thing that worries us is that, is thier enough custom out thier.we are all hard workers and dont mind the long hours.we have enough money to last us 1 year ,after paying rent,food bills,ect ect.do you think that would be enough time for us to make it,like i said before we are not in it to make a fast buck but to change our life style.any advice would bbe welcomed.thanx  |
As you've got as far as deciding which bar you may possibly buy the next sensible move is to get a good accountant to look at the whole aspect of the business including legal papers, opening licence etc. You'll pay for this service but it will be the best money you can spend and may save many tears later?
Several of us with businesses here use this company and we all recommend them... http://www.sun4free.com/directory/tenerifebusiness437.htm
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How many staff does the "Little Britain" have? _________________ .
Who am I? Follow the myspacetenerife link under my avatar.
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:27 pm
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jenny Senior Moderator



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Make sure you do get everything checked by a professional - licences, electrics etc. Don't leave a stone unturned and if you have any doubts, don't do it.
Do you speak Spanish? This will make your life a lot easier here, when checking all these things (you are less likely to get conned) and for life in general (Doctor's visits, sorting out paperwork, day to day running of a business). _________________ Who am I? Find out more here: http://www.myspacetenerife.com/index.php?page=view_profile&id=17
I will make this day a happy one for I alone can determine what kind of day it will be. |
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:45 pm
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rob Moderator



Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 7708 Location: Tenerife
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| MICHELLEH1704 wrote: | hi all and thanx for the advice.we have been looking into buying a bar called little britian,its in los americas {do any of you know of the said bar}.we have enough money to last us 1 year ,after paying rent,food bills,ect ect.do you think that would be enough time for us to make it,like i said before we are not in it to make a fast buck but to change our life style.any advice would bbe welcomed.thanx  |
Do you have a good chunk of money reserved for stocking/marketing/unforseen expenses? Many people spend all their capital buying the bar and keep insufficient for running costs ie they're under capitalised, the single most common reason for going bust. _________________ .
Who am I? Follow the myspacetenerife link under my avatar.
Remember: You don't stop laughing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop laughing. |
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:48 pm
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MICHELLEH1704 Baby Reefer


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| hi all a realy big thanks for all your replies.i will answer you the best i can thankyou.no1 my son speaks spanish the rest of us are learning no2 the said bar is closed due to the husband having an affair so the split up and went home about 4months ago no3 we have a lump sum for unforseen events no4 we have enough money to stock the bar for 4 months no5 as soon as we can get the paper work to look at we will seek legal advice.good point about the loo and not charging.me and my family work well together and work hard.to be honest when were out there 1wk ago we were took round some bars to look at ,and i was disscusted at the state of some of them,and yes your right if it looks dirty from the outside what is it going to look like inside.also your right about the standard of food ,it let a lot to be disered,i cook my food to a standard that i will eat,not just to make money.i realy do thank you for your time and comments,i need as much info as possible cheers |
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:27 pm
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MICHELLEH1704 Baby Reefer


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| as you can see my spelling isnt up to much sorry |
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Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:29 pm
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